Fiorina also suggested she disagrees with the decision made by U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn Walker last month in favor of overturning Proposition 8, a ban on same-sex marriage approved by California voters in 2008.
“Whatever your view about gay marriage, I think many of us would conclude that when voters have such a clear decision, for that decision to be overturned by a single judge seems perhaps not appropriate,” she said.
Fiorina added she supports repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” and is awaiting the Pentagon’s study on the issue due Dec. 1.
In response to Fiorina’s comments, Boxer reiterated her support for same-sex marriage, recalling the 2008 decision of the California State Supreme Court that temporarily extended marriage rights to same-sex couples in the California.
“The only way to get the rights that married couples have is to go for marriage equality,” Boxer said. “And I’m glad to say, I believe people are coming around to seeing it.”
Reason 4,529 why Boxer is better than Fiorina.
Fiorina, who decided to parlay her professional failures into becoming the Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate in California, talked to a the CBS affiliate in San Francisco this week about her approach to tax cuts.
“Let me propose something that may seem crazy to you: you don’t need to pay for tax cuts. They pay for themselves, if they are targeted, because they create jobs.”
This is, in most respects, even more ridiculous than Sen. Jon Kyl’s (R-Ariz.) assertion that shouldn’t try to pay for tax cuts. For the Senate Minority Whip, tax cuts are always good, even if they increase the deficit, because they shrink government. For the deeply confused Carly Fiorina, the policy is more fantastical — paying for tax cuts is unnecessary because once taxes are cut, more money simply materializes, magically, in the federal treasury. The deficit simply won’t go up, she argues, no matter how much taxes are cut.
Thirty years ago, this raving stupidity had a name: “voodoo economics.” More recently, it’s come to be known as belief in the “Tax Fairy.”
Regardless of the name, the notion that tax cuts necessarily pay for themselves is one of the more pernicious lies in the far-right arsenal. It’s both gibberish and right-wing propaganda, but it’s neverthelessrepeated from time to time.
It shouldn’t be — the concept has been debunked repeatedly by those who care about reality. How wrong is the argument? The Bush/Cheney Office of Management and Budget and the Bush/Cheney Council of Economic Advisers rejected the notion that tax cuts can pay for themselves out of hand. Fiorina, in other words, is promising to be even more fiscally irresponsible than the bunch that added $5 trillion to our national debt in eight years.
Fiorina is a terrible candidate and person, but I’m not in California so it doesn’t really effect me. What does effect me on a daily basis, however, is the idea that tax cuts for the wealthy will somehow help the poor.
It’s absurd in the extreme: here you have an extremely affluent, wealthy American who is telling the rest of the country that because they’re going through tough times, the best solution is to lower her taxes and cut services for the poor. She insists it creates jobs without listing a single real reason it would, and completely ignores the fact that, with our global economy, any jobs created by tax cuts to the rich are just going to be outsourced.
How do I know that? Well, when Fiorina was in charge of HP, she laid off 18,000 workers and exported their jobs overseas- a practice she termed “right-sourcing”.
Another thing that bugs me about this is the almost oppressive stench of white privilege on Fiorina. She torpedoed HP (HP stocks shot up by almost 7% the day after she was fired) and got a 21.4 million dollar severance package for it, she embarrassed McCain (her words were “I don’t think John McCain could run a major corporation”) and yet she STILL gets to stay in the upper echelons of society and wealth.
Is it that there are no other qualified people seeking similar positions as hers? Is it that she’s particularly good at what she does? The answer to both questions is ‘obviously not’. So what accounts for her status? Birth (daughter of a prominent lawyer and judge), networking (her daddy sent her to law school, but she dropped out) and the fact that she’s wealthy and white all keep her above the rest of us, and that just infuriates me.
I am in California so it does effect me and I agree she’s horrible. I hope we let her know just how horrible she is when November comes around.
Boxer has been touring the state touting the jobs created by the stimulus act, which Fiorina opposed. Yesterday she was in San Francisco at the Doyle Drive project which is getting under way this year thanks to $100 million in stimulus money. Fiorina has been attacking the stimulus, which has been conservatively estimated to have saved or create 150,000 jobs in California.
Fiorina’s entire campaign plan, in fact, appears to be geared around calling for higher unemployment. Fiorina’s spokeswoman Julie Soderlund said the jobs created by the stimulus weren’t worth it, and at today’s Monterey event about five Fiorina supporters showed up with signs reading “Government Jobs aren’t Real Jobs.”
Boxer’s speech this morning, which was both lively and fiery, took direct issue with Fiorina’s arguments. Boxer challenged Fiorina to come with her to Fresno later in the day where she would be meeting with police officers whose jobs were saved by the stimulus, or go with her to the project building the fourth bore of the Caldecott Tunnel, where private sector jobs are being created with public funds.
Boxer also slammed Fiorina’s own record on jobs. Fiorina has opposed ALL jobs bills that have come before the Senate, including extension of unemployment benefits. And of course, Fiorina laid off 30,000 workers at H-P, a company she ran into the ground and was fired from in 2005. Fiorina memorably called offshoring “right-sourcing” and said "there is no job that is America’s God-given right anymore" - an indication that she is totally uninterested in actually creating jobs here in California.
In contrast, Boxer made her own job creation solution clear. She said her plan has three key elements: 1) rejecting Prop 23 and protecting California’s ability to lead the recovery through green jobs, 2) using transportation projects from highways to high speed rail to put people back to work, and 3) stop the corporate offshoring of American jobs.
Boxer strongly opposed Prop 23, which would repeal AB 32, calling it a “job killer.” As to the deficit, Boxer drew loud cheers when she said that Bush’s tax cuts for the rich and his two wars were responsible for undermining the work she and President Clinton had done to produce a surplus in the 1990s.
In fact, that last argument could be Boxer’s secret weapon. Boxer was there in the Senate in 1993 when she helped pass President Clinton’s jobs and deficit reduction bills. By 2000 there was a record $230 billion surplus, which Bush promptly destroyed through his reckless tax cuts and destructive wars.
The 1990s economy wasn’t perfect - far from it. In fact, Carly Fiorina was perhaps one of its highest-profile products, and one of its most obvious failures. But there’s no doubt that Boxer helped produce a budget surplus and real economic growth and job creation in the 1990s. She can do it again with President Obama - but only if Fiorina is kept far, far away from the US Senate.
Judging by her tour of California this week, Boxer is more than ready for the task.
I love me some Senator Boxer.
Let her talk about hair. We’re talking about jobs.
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Just hours after clinching the GOP nomination for U.S. Senate, Carly Fiorina was caught on an open microphone making fun of her opponent Barbara Boxer’s hairstyle.
While prepping for an interview with Sacramento’s KXTV on Wednesday morning, Fiorina was recorded laughing loudly as she described the three-term senator’s hair as “so yesterday.”
Uh, Carly, your hair is a little Hillary Clintonish. It ain’t like you’re a trendsetter. WTF is this about? Also, STFU about bbox because I love her.
*insert clip of Barbara Boxer saying climate change is a national security issue*
Carly Fiorina: Terrorism kills. And Barbara Boxer is worried about the weather. I’m Carly Fiorina. I used to run Hewlett Packard.
I KNOW! I KNOOOOOWWWW.
RAHHHHHH STFU CARLY FIORINA
I hate Carly Fiorina almost as much as I love Barbara Boxer. But nothing surpasses my love of bbox!
Could you say ‘senator’ instead of ‘ma’am? It’s just a thing. I worked so hard to get that title. I’d appreciate it.
When Senator Feingold proposed an amendment to a military spending bill which would ask Obama to tell us how long it’s gonna take before we’ll be fully out of Afghanistan, Boxer supported it. Naturally all the republicans were opposed and most of the democrats were as well. It was voted down 80-18.
But Boxer (or bbox as I liked to call her <333333!) consistently votes for shit that’s right even when that shit has no chance of getting passed. And this was right after Obama was out here campaigning for her too! This is what I like about her. She’s strong on the environment and civil rights. She’s an advocate for women’s rights.
People say Boxer’s arrogant and that she’s a bitch. Why? Because she’s a woman working in a male dominated environment and she’s fucking tough. She says what she wants. And if she were a man, this wouldn’t be an issue. So, if Boxer’s a bitch, I say you go, you fierce bitch. I love you and your snark.